Resist or Die
the rate of change is accelerating,
whether we're talking about the
the thoroughness of the techno-culture.
to be industrial civilization,
I would say is extraordinarily uncivilized,
living in an ecological apocalypse.
time pressures that really mean
more urgently than most of us have.
and one of them is climate change,
continue to underestimate how far
down the path to climate catastrophe
we're oblivious to it, we don't
we don't want to hear about it.
- The one thing I'm most afraid of
- At this point, scientists
by as much as 10 degrees.
in a time of dwindling resources,
Somewhere in northern California
the destruction is proceeding.
on the screen is Derrick Jensen.
Jensen is the best-selling author
including "A Language Older than Words"
and "The Culture of Make Believe".
His books deal with topics such as
surveillance, child abuse, the environment,
and something he calls "civilization".
But it's statements like these
that make him so controversial:'
"It is Californians' God-given
'That was Mr. Jensen in 2006, the same year
he published a two-volume set called 'Endgame.'
In 'Endgame' , he argues that there is an
urgent need to bring down civilization.'
- If people would have brought down
civilization a hundred years ago
people in the Pacific Northwest
There's going to be people sitting
along the Columbia fifty years from now —
they'll be glowing for one thing —
but they'll be starving to death,
"I'm starving to death, because
those dams were used for barging,
and for electricity, for alumninum
civilization by enumerating 20 premises.
would not tolerate a twenty-hour
Industrial civilization, civilization itself,
but especially industrial civilization
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
out that any way of life that's based
characterized by the growth of cities.
- So you've got groups of people living
in a dense enough population that
the local landbase cannot support them.
What that means is you have to get
your basic resources from somewhere else
because you've used them up where you live.
So you're going to go out into
If you require the importation of resources,
it means you've denuded the landscape
to destroy the land that you need for your survival,
or the waters that you need to drink,
and expect to continue to live.
- Industrial civilization requires
in order to perpetuate itself,
in order to just maintain itself.
And we live on a finite planet,
and those aren't available. Of course,
unfortunately for us and most living creatures,
it's consumed as much as it can,
or, of course, until we stop it ourselves.
- If you have a finite amount of anything,
eventually you use it up.
your entire culture is based on,
- We've found energy resources
that have allowed us to escape
have had to face much more quickly.
The limit being the distance that people
could travel with things like horses,
they can go all over the planet
- We've poured our wealth into
building an infrastructure for daily life
that has no future. I do think that
oil problem is going to accelerate
five years, maybe even sooner.
The numbers indicate that we've
probably peaked in global production.
- Where do you find the break from that?
I mean, all of it is a giant machine or
ensemble that just moves forward.
Technology, for example, never takes a step back.
- I don't know of any civilization
I don't believe there ever has been one.
philosophical and historical sources,
but more relentlessly technological.
- There is no clean green path to
but they just keep on doing it.
- Every civilization is defined by hubris,
civilization, in its founding lies,
controller of the whole world.
- The first written myth of this culture
is Gilgamesh deforesting the plains
what's the first thing they normally
think of? Cedar forests so thick
That's how it was, prior to the
So, as a longtime, grassroots,
the thrashing endgame of civilization,
carrying the daily weight of despair.
- Here in BC, and across North America,
and just remove all the trees.
and they take out all the timber
and what's left is a wasteland,
and it's like they take a rainforest
to the United States and to Japan.
it's just getting exported for pulp and paper
and fibreboard, and plywood, and whatever else.
usually the company will only clearcut
but this tree is in what they call
because it's a selection zone.
In a clearcut they don't paint the trees
that they're going to cut down.
- There's still a strong push to harvest
and leaving the rest laying there…
I think the last straw was when
they wanted to log the Valley of Ista
spiritual significance to our people.
But they log it in spite, you know,
against our resistance, against our
you know, with regard to treaties
or encroachment of industry development
you can see the soil is exposed,
and often there's not much regrowth,
there's no regeneration of the forest.
They do some replanting —
it washes down into the streams,
all kinds of flood damage downstream.
marine life and the salmon life.
And the injustice to the people
and the laws are all profit-driven,
this that we see on the sides here
to stop the forest from being sacrificed,
Traditional communities do not often
It follows that those who want
the resources will do what they can
to destroy traditional communities.
- Our people, we say, have been
lands in North America were occupied by
different relationship with the land.
celebrating the renewal of seasons and
life and affirming all of that.
- One thing about indigenous peoples is that
in balance, you know, emotionally,
natural world that they lived in.
- The Tolowa, on whose land I now live,
they lived in villages, camps…
…and lived there for 12,500 years if
you believe the myths of science.
If you believe the myths of the Tolowa,
they lived there since the beginning of time.
- I think that what we have had in
indigenous societies all along is a very,
kind of, common sense, a very practical
approach to why it's important to
the natural world, in a good way.
We respect the land, we respect the animals,
we respect the water, we respect the air,
the wind, the fire, all the sacred elements.
And we believe that they all are living,
about our relationship to each other
any deities, arise from our relationship
The salmon were considered to be our…
…mentors, caregivers — lifegivers.
They were equal to us, in fact,
all beings have a spiritual essence,
that it was absolutely essential
they promised to take our land,
When Europeans came to this land
apparently, to dominate the land
and it was just there for the taking —
and of course they had superior
- The smallpox was spread through
and given to the Indian people.
So it didn't take them long to be
decimated because they were pure.
And as they were seeking that wealth,
on indigenous peoples, of course,
they just destroyed indigenous
Generally, indigenous peoples suffered
90% or more depopulation rate
upon having contact with Europeans.
It was a genocide, war for territory,
- Settler society has worked to destroy
- I gave a talk in Oregon a couple years ago,
"You know, you talk a lot about
on violence, but I don't see it,
I said, "Okay, first off, where is your shirt made?"
He looked and it was made in Bangladesh.
"Look, do we even need to talk about that?"
- He's fucking faking he's dead!
- He's faking he's fucking dead!
industrial civilization, is based on,
- A large explosion! A large explosion!
- I'll just take a couple eggs. How many you want?
- Everything, then, right, you want everything.
Okay. I understand, okay.
We'll just pop this on. Now watch!
I'm chopping the ham and veggies,
those smoothies for Verna and Fred,
There's not much time left to get
this beautiful hope diamond necklace,
less than 50 seconds. Gillian?
- Absolutely, John, you're going
to want to give us a call to get
this beautiful hope diamond necklace.
- These are twelve four-ounce southern
juicy, and downright delicious.
- Fine-tune those measurements,
another pair of customized jeans
- We're going to do a countdown,
Everybody got to help me out here,
He said, "Because, I don't own."
I said, "No, no, no, what would
happen if you didn't pay rent?"
"Well, the sheriff would come and evict me."
I said, "I don't know what that means.
He said, "Well, the sheriff would come
and he would knock on the door…"
I said, "Okay, great, what happens
'Hey! I'm just finishing up making dinner.
And the sheriff sits down, you feed him
And then, after dinner you say,
company, but not all that pleasant,
so I would like for you to leave
my home now.' What would happen?
He said, "Well, the sheriff would
because you didn't pay rent.'"
I said, "Ahh. So, the reason you pay
I said, "Well, let's try again.
What happens if you're hungry,
so you go to the grocery store
"someone will call the sheriff."
I said, "Yeah, it's the same guy who's going
to come with a gun and take you away,
he's a real asshole, isn't he?"
we don't see a lot of the violence,
lot of the violence is because
to have to pay to exist on the planet.
then some guy with a gun is going to come
and bad things are going to happen to you.
I got a call from a friend of mine.
She's an environmental activist.
I said, "Yeah, I know. It'll do that."
I said, "Yeah, it does. Even itself."
She said, "It has a death urge, doesn't it?"
She said, "Unless it's stopped, it's going
to kill everything on the planet, isn't it?"
I said, "Yeah it is, unless it's stopped."
- 98% of the old-growth forests are gone.
planet do not support life anymore.
We are out of species, we're out of soil,
by most of the environmental movement
is that the way to stop all of this
is through personal, consumer choices.
- By simply purchasing our product,
the consumer can make a small,
- I think we can really look at the history
of the environmental movement to tell
us a lot about why it hasn't been working.
radical and militant environmentalism
In a lot of ways, that was kind of
a heyday for environmentalism.
You know, Greenpeace was founded.
It started to become very mainstream in
some quarters to be an environmentalist.
a shift around that time when…
…corporations realized that they could sell
a lot of things by calling them "green".
- I have a real problem with a lot of the
"solutions" that are put forward by people
industrial economy as a given.
"How can we save the industrial economy, and oh, it would be nice if we still have a planet."
- It doesn't matter if I buy,
and the planet becomes uninhabitable.
big environmental organizations —
is rooted in that very same cultural lie
Nature is things to be used and managed.
that we can endlessly extract from.
but as long as they maintain the mindset that
we are the lords of creation and
creation exists for us as resources
to be transformed into commodities
means to be an environmentalist,
an ultimately self-destructive
In May 2010, 21 logging companies signed a deal with several major environmental
organizations, including Greenpeace
and the David Suzuki Foundation.
The deal, known as "The Canadian Boreal
Forest Agreement" aimed to silence all
criticism of logging practices
Many cusomers have been pushing for
The Forest Product Association
and its 21 member companies are
responding to the demand for greener products,
If the change isn't happening,
the environmental organizations,
the forest products companies —
And the will reward the companies
when things begin to be implemented and
the change happens on the ground.
- One interesting piece of the agreement is
the agreement actually requires
work with us in repelling the attack and we'll be
able to say, "Fight me, fight my gang."
- I personally have no use for large,
institutionalized environmental organizations;
I think they're more of a problem than a help.
They're just eco-bureaucracies.
And, you know, I won't name any
because I don't like to badmouth
organizations, except for one, which I
Greenpeace. And the reason I
I am a co-creator of Greenpeace,
and therefore I feel like Dr. Frankenstein
sometimes, and I feel that since I helped
create the thing I can certainly criticize it.
And I think that Greenpeace has become
organization now. People join it
to feel good, to feel, "I'm part of
the solution, I'm not part of the problem."
and what do they do with that money?
Generate more money. And the people who
are at the top of the totem pole
now are not environmentalists —
People are voting with their dollars at
the checkout stands. It's because
they know the polling shows that the public cares,
and ultimately they're going to care about their
profit margin and whether they can sell products.
What's happened in British Columbia with the
environmental movement, it's been stalemated.
The big leaders there compromised;
and it snuffed out that movement.
- So what happened was there was direct action,
there was an international market campaign
that put a lot of pressure on the companies
that were logging in the Great Bear Rainforest.
But the end result was that it all fed into
a closed-door negotiation with
Tzeporah Berman as chief negotiator
on the conservationists' side,
that were signed with First Nations
So the protocol agreements gave
the former president of Greenpeace
now works for the logging industry of Canada.
The former president of Greenpeace Australia
now works for the mining industry. The former
president of Greenpeace Norway works for the
whaling industry. See, because it's
just one corporate job to the next.
In 1975 Greenpeace launched
confronting whaling fleets on the high seas.
In June 2010, Greenpeace agreed
nations like Japan to continue hunting
whales for commercial purposes.
shit as to whether we recycled;
they're not going to give a shit
as to whether we wrote our legislators;
What they're going to care about is whether they
can breathe the air and drink the water,
whether the land will support them.
they're not going to care about any of that —
what they're going to care about is…
…do we live on a living planet?
… I don't know if you know this, but
and it's a little bit different.
Non-Violent Civil Disobedience".
But the plot of Star Wars, for those
of you who don't remember, is that
giant machine called the Death Star.
capable of destroying entire planets.
In the movie the rebels find a
way to destroy the Death Star,
uses the force to get past all the
tie fighters and to drop a torpedo
and to blow up the Death Star.
intergalactic march of empire.
For example, they set up programs for
people on planets about to be destroyed,
to produce luxury items like hemp
hacky sacks and gourmet coffee
for sale to inhabitants of the Death Star.
discover that there are plans afoot
to encourage loads of troopers
and other citizens of the empire
to take eco-tours of doomed planets.
The purpose will be to show to one and all
that these planets are economically important
to the Empire and so should not be destroyed.
In a surprise move that will get
viewers to the edges of their seats,
other groups of rebels will file
attempting to show that the Environmental
Impact Statement that Darth Vader
to adequately support its decision
that blowing up this planet would
cause "no significant impact".
of plans to boycott items produced
by corporations that have Darth
Vader on the board of directors,
when they see bags full of letters
written directly to Mr. Vader himself
bring the Empire to its knees,
but to make a damn fine and exciting movie.
the part of the mainstream rebels
to bring tears to even the eyes
the planets to be destroyed, link
arms, and sing "Give Peace a Chance."
boss the Grand Moff Tarkin, to whom they
also send wave after wave of loving kindness.
the Death Star and lock themselves
equipment. And stirring debates
voluntarily surrender on approach
they should remain locked down to the end.
But there's more. Once inside the Death
Star, a splinter group breaks off,
they burn a couple of transporters,
and they etch "Galaxy Liberation Front".
Vader's private room. And when
they get there, they sneak up behind him
were developing at the same time
called "The Plot to Pie Hitler".
As the Death Star looms directly
advocate picking up weapons to fight back.
pacifist rebels who argue that attacking
example of the Empire's harmful philosophy
To change Darth Vader's heart,
Darth Vader, and remember that
So finally Leia, Luke, Han, Chewbacca,
and a couple of robots show up
and tell these others they've found a
way to blow up the whole Death Star.
of course, are just horrified.
A scuffle breaks out between Leia,
Luke, Han, and Chewbacca and the two
And the pacifists chase those four
from the room and from the film
which is not a big deal because
they are minor characters anyway.
and then you see the Death Star,
and then you see the Death Star
and you see the laser start to glow
then you see the planet again,
and you see this little light —
and what that is: that's the environmentalists
getting away before the planet gets blown up.
shot of the movie, which reveals
what complete triumph this was for the
page 43 of the New Empire Times
that devotes a full 3 sentences
to the destruction of the planet.
So it's like, "Yeah we got some press!"
The culture is driven by a death urge,
to understand that no combination
or used french fry potato oil,
no combination of these things is going to
allow us to keep a happy, motoring society going.
- We are using up all the very
easily accessed energy sources:
and we've really built this huge way
of life based on cheap oil, essentially.
- The world as we know it, which
relies entirely on oil to function,
- We are headed for the crash.
That oil is not going to come again.
- The tar sands are probably one
projects in the history of mankind.
- The tar sands are the largest,
most destructive environmental
project on the planet right now.
- It's oil extraction,
it's some of the dirtiest oil on the planet,
and the reason that we're extracting this
this particular brand of dirty, dirty, oil
is because there's no other oil left to extract.
- Tar sands really aren't oil.
Effectively, the process by which you
New York, or larger than England
is already considered the largest industrial project
in human history, and it's barely begun.
- They extract it from the sand by
…so the oil sits on top of the water like a froth,
then they scrape it off, and that's the bitumen.
- To produce one barrel of oil
which can be up to two hundred feet deep.
For each barrel of oil, there's
where you spin it at a high speed,
which is the pre-synthetic oil,
But that's after you've already
to be hundreds of tons of Earth.
- The energy that's required to
actually do that is approximately,
people say for almost every barrel of oil you need
about a half a barrel of energy just
so for every barrel of energy input,
two barrels of oil are produced,
very minor in terms of the energy
So the ratio that's most important to
talk about is a ratio you could use
in a country like Iraq, where for
each barrel of oil you use to try to
- The Athabasca River, which runs
where you have many different native
communities living along the river,
is being sucked of its water to
fuel the tar sands operations.
- Because of the contamination of the river
of things like oil and grease and
untreated sewage into the Athabasca River,
and sometimes there's accidents,
spills of these toxic chemicals
directly into the Athabasca Rivers.
- The community of Fort Chipewyan,
and the Dene Chipewyan First Nation,
of raising the alarm about what's happening,
and their community has been seeing all of this
rise in rare cancers, autoimmune diseases,
basically the whole environment
- How this is effecting my community is that
it's killing off the people of Fort Chipewyan.
"a slow, industrial genocide."
And this is a war for our lives,
because the government is allowing
the people of Fort Chip to die.
- The tar sands are not only fueling
the second fastest rate of deforestation
they're already the second fastest
And with the goals of production that
they're talking about, the CO2 emissions
the coal-fired power plants from
Alberta to Arizona and in between,
that, for example, fresh water is just
an elemental part of human existence
and they're running full force towards
extracting these last little bits of oil
to sustain this plastic culture,
to the destruction of the environment
and most disgusting form of crack
- We probably agree that civilization's
If you don't agree with this, we
probably have nothing to say to each other.
We agree further that since industrial
civilization is systematically dismantling
the ecological infrastructure of the planet…
…the sooner civilization comes down,
whether or not we help it crash,
the more life will remain afterwards
to support both humans and nonhumans.
- The genesis of Endgame, the book,
was really because I did some talks
around the possibility of fighting back.
audience was really predictable.
If it was an audience made up of
sort of mainstream environmentalists
and peace and social justice activists,
I've taken to calling a "Gandhi shield".
Which is, they would say the names "Martin
Luther King", "Dalai Lama", and "Gandhi"
again and again, as fast as they can,
to keep all evil thoughts at bay.
And if it was grassroots environmentalists,
up to me afterwards and they would say,
- Especially in North America,
advocates have had a very defining role,
and even a censoring role, in determining
what other people's participation can be
in a whole range of social struggles, and
has made it very much easier for the state
to control those social struggles,
that non-violence plays a function
of recuperating social struggles,
so that they can just exist in
this cesspool of democratic plurality.
idealism or faith that something
when it's certainly not going to change at all?
- What are the false hopes that
blind us to real possibilities?
Does anybody really think that
deforesting because we asked nicely
that Monsanto will stop Monsantoing
I was talking to this person in the
States several years ago and they said,
"If we can just get a Democrat in the
White House, things are going to be OK."
REALLY encourage us to get over.
The first is that social change
It doesn't. It happens by force.
it only works on people who can actually
relied upon to act from their position
after their minds have been changed.
And the problem is that we're not dealing with
individuals who can be convinced or persuaded,
we're dealing mostly with large,
abstract, social organizations,
- You can't argue with psychopaths,
you can't argue with fascists,
and you can't argue with those
who are benefiting from an economic system.
and that force can be violent or nonviolent.
- The Left, to a large extent subconsciously,
resistance will never disappear,
that struggles will never disappear
showed their heads, that there was
and just trying to manage it permanently.
there's nothing happening here!
so please keep the march going!"
- Social movements in North America are locked
into this pacifist doctrine that is imposed by
frequently say that nonviolence
examples that they use of that
are Gandhi in India and Martin
this constitutes a really great
that in fact the resistance in
means pacifist in its entirety.
- Especially in the West,
either direct action or what's
sort of, you know, resistance that
goes beyond what is seen as a sort of a
pacifist or a peaceful means of resistance.
- For years, I really bought into the whole
Gandhian myth that is really sort of
activists in the United States,
and many of them despised him.
collaborator and he was somebody
whom the British could work with.
- Gandhi's very well known in the West,
but when you go to India, there's
a freedom fighter and revolutionary
almost as well known as Gandhi
the independence movement and a
leader in the independence movement.
probably have never heard his name.
And the reason why that is, is that he used
British army that were killed;
there were weapons that people
were getting off of railway cars.
and for being basically ineffective.
too aggressive, of being too fast
and reckless and irresponsible.
- Gandhi basically got negotiating power
other elements in the struggle
threatening to British dominance.
the extremists and the moderates.
- The British were bled white after WWII,
They knew a revolution was coming and they
wanted to blunt it as much as they could.
The British were still able to
maintain their interests, less directly,
more radical or militant work.
they're doing. And that's what
decide to take certain actions
or they're doing this or doing that,
want to toe the Gandhi line that,
"Oh, they're just not thinking about it."
- What most states will choose
to do in similar circumstances
to negotiate with them, and then
to hand over power to THEM in order
- So again, you have the state
King it does with, for example,
the environmental movement. So
it invites the responsible leaders
debates. It recognizes them —
they're the legitimate leaders —
it doesn't want the movement to begin to
adopt more militant resistance tactics.
It never has, and it never will."
If we use more efficient electricity,
appliances, we can save this much
off of the global warming pollution that
And all these begin to add up:
save, perhaps, political will.
It's all about saving civilization.
And that's entirely backwards.
who will cut through the crap and
children, 50-75 years from now
each one of us has to live the life
today, at this very moment, doing the things
that we would be proud to tell our ancestors about.
If we are serious about saving life on Earth
we've got to start fighting back
to form a serious resistance movement.
sense of a traditional worldview
know that the way of life that
settlers society has imposed on this
that we really need to kind of
or wait until they're done doing,
I think really the big problem is power,
And their power is more important
going to dismantle the systems of
or for any kind of gains or concessions,
you have to force them to do it.
And that's the power of disruption.
It was a bloody day at the Mohawk Indian
community in Oka, Quebec, near Montreal.
"Provincial police in riot gear stormed
the barricades the Mohawks had set up.
and in the midst of the battle, a policeman
was killed. All this because of
forest the Indians claim is theirs,
a forest town council wants to bulldoze
to expand the local golf course."
leaving behind their cruisers.
front-end loader which the Mohawks
immediately put to their own use.
The police cruisers, crushed and useless,
became barricades themselves."
These people are raping our mother.
- These politicians are servants of the
system; it's their job to keep
And they will never, ever, act in the
people's interests or the interests of the planet.
It doesn't matter what we say,
And if we allow them to stay in power,
they will always take back any gain
that we manage to get from them.
that there's not any possibility
definitely see in the histories
of struggle, small gains have been won,
by the use of all tactics, and I think
really say if a particular tactic is
violent or not because this is just
I think it's more important to look
at which tactics can be empowering,
- These are serious power structures
that are making vast sums of money.
state in every way imaginable.
all the money is on their side.
and the light-armored vehicle behind it.
this vehicle on a mixture of biofuels,
appropriately called the "Green Hornet"
will be flown for the first time in just
- Bushmaster, Crazy Horse one-eight.
- Bushmaster, Crazy Horse one-eight.
- This is Bushmaster seven, go ahead.
- Bushmaster seven, roger. This is
Bushmaster seven, roger. Engage.
- Come on!
and they'll have to do the right thing by
precedent has been set many times
throughout our history: the people
The people who liberated slaves in our
to protect them from slave masters and a
the United States at that time.
- We need to start and get out there
and go beyond hitting "Like" on
Facebook and signing online petitions.
in the real world fighting back.
are never going to be on our side.
and as communities of resistance,
as a culture of resistance —
"Okay, well, what will it take to stop
this culture from destroying the planet?"
persuasion hasn't worked and persuasion
…successful, then we have to
movements in the past have done,
and kind of the different phases
because without a fighting spirit,
- The smartest thing the Nazis did was
step of the way, it was in the Jews'
rational best interest to not resist.
Would you rather get an ID card,
Do you want to move to a ghetto,
Do you want to get on a cattle car,
which is: the Jews who participated
- I think that if any of us were
alive in Nazi Germany right now,
we would know what a resistance
the culture of industrial civilization
as if it's a culture of occupation,
What would we do if they implemented
Mussolini's definition of fascism:
"Fascism should more appropriately
with citizens allowed to choose between
different wings of the same fascists,
(or, following Mussolini, Corporate) party.
What if anti-government activity was
opposed by storm troopers and secret police?
If there already existed a resistance
Would you resist if the fascists irradiated
the countryside, poisoned food supplies,
deforested the continent, would you join
an underground army of resistance,
head to the forests, and from there
to boardrooms and the halls of the
Reichstag to pick off the occupying deforesters
and, most especially, those that
give them their marching orders?
at which you'll finally take a stand.
Directed, filmed, produced, and edited
Volumes I and II by Derrick Jensen
watch what you say on the cell,
and my legs and they walk me through my paces,
people chase it, glittery lights but I've seen the heights.
My time is not wasted, I'm tracing the sky,
all the spaces of mind in time.
Will come the time, the moment designed
So I take my time, grind it up and break it,
roll it up so fine, light it up and blaze it.
on the grind training for the signs
Take your fist and raise it up to the sky.
Do or do not do there is no try.
Hard to find what's true, that is no life.
They clipped your wings, how you gonna fly?